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Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Oct 19 @ 2:21 PM ET
Jason Millen: Blues shoot down the Hawks, travel to Denver to take on the Avs Blues shoot down the Hawks, travel to Denver to take on the Avs
Allforhim12
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.26.2013

Oct 19 @ 2:52 PM ET
My picks for this evening .Blues should take this one no? https://youtu.be/Uao-wtAQjiE
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 19 @ 3:03 PM ET
My picks for this evening .Blues should take this one no? https://youtu.be/Uao-wtAQjiE
- Allforhim12

Give me a shoutout in your next video and I'll subscribe
Allforhim12
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.26.2013

Oct 19 @ 4:14 PM ET
Give me a shoutout in your next video and I'll subscribe
- Nucker101

Is this Jason ?
sycsam
St Louis Blues
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.26.2008

Oct 19 @ 4:17 PM ET
Love is not a strong enough word for the Schenn acquisition

Masterful by DA

Fits perfectly on that second line with Schwartz

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 19 @ 4:25 PM ET
Is this Jason ?
- Allforhim12

No, it's Nucker101
Taynos
St Louis Blues
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 04.04.2013

Oct 19 @ 4:38 PM ET
Love is not a strong enough word for the Schenn acquisition

Masterful by DA

Fits perfectly on that second line with Schwartz

- sycsam


He is proving the naysayers wrong that he is better at wing. I get the sense Schenn is gonna be very effective when playoff hockey comes around.
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Oct 19 @ 4:41 PM ET
Love is not a strong enough word for the Schenn acquisition

Masterful by DA

Fits perfectly on that second line with Schwartz

- sycsam



Yeah, right now, that deal looks like highway robbery. Schenn is producing at nearly a point per game, and has great chemistry with Schwartz. Meanwhile, Lehtera has been a healthy scratch all year for Philly.
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Oct 19 @ 4:44 PM ET
Yeah, right now, that deal looks like highway robbery. Schenn is producing at nearly a point per game, and has great chemistry with Schwartz. Meanwhile, Lehtera has been a healthy scratch all year for Philly.
- Antilles

Agreed.
Allforhim12
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.26.2013

Oct 19 @ 4:47 PM ET
No, it's Nucker101
- Nucker101

I check out your stuff , but I do promote Hockeybuzz all the time ...because I love it .
Allforhim12
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.26.2013

Oct 19 @ 4:49 PM ET
No, it's Nucker101
- Nucker101

Also feel free to post anything on my Facebook wall .I have little filters and quite a few followers .Aslo , comment on my Vids and people can get to know your stuff that way too.
fattyboubatty
St Louis Blues
Location: st louis, MO
Joined: 12.09.2006

Oct 19 @ 5:39 PM ET
Also feel free to post anything on my Facebook wall .I have little filters and quite a few followers .Aslo , comment on my Vids and people can get to know your stuff that way too.
- Allforhim12

No one cares about your "picks" bro. Go get a real job.
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Oct 19 @ 6:28 PM ET
No one cares about your "picks" bro. Go get a real job.
- fattyboubatty

sycsam
St Louis Blues
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.26.2008

Oct 20 @ 10:40 AM ET
Another terrible third period
Yeah Boyes
St Louis Blues
Location: Ekland, MO
Joined: 04.20.2009

Oct 20 @ 11:39 AM ET
Yeah, right now, that deal looks like highway robbery. Schenn is producing at nearly a point per game, and has great chemistry with Schwartz. Meanwhile, Lehtera has been a healthy scratch all year for Philly.
- Antilles



I like the trade but it's still really early. Schenn's point production is starting to regress to his mean and we did give up two (hopefully late) first rounders.
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Oct 20 @ 11:55 AM ET
By the official NHL rules, that goal last night that was challenged and called off for off-sides should have counted.

Refs messed that play up so much.
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Oct 20 @ 11:57 AM ET
78.7 Coach’s Challenge – The video review mechanism triggered by the
Coach’s Challenge is intended to be extremely narrow in scope and the
original call on the ice is to be overturned if, and only if, a determination
is made that the original call on the ice was not correct. If a review is
not conclusive and/or there is any doubt whatsoever as to whether the
call on the ice was correct, the original call on the ice will be confirmed.

NOTE: Only one Coach’s Challenge per team per stoppage will be
permitted.

A team may only request a Coach’s Challenge to review the
following scenarios:

(i) - – A play that results in a “GOAL”
call on the ice where the defending team asserts that the play should
have been stopped by reason of an “Off-side” infraction by the
attacking team.

(a) The standard for overturning the call in the event of a “GOAL” call
on the ice is that the NHL Situation Room, after reviewing any
and all available replays and consulting with the Linesman,
determines that one or more Players on the attacking team
preceded the puck into the attacking zone prior to the goal being
scored and that, as a result, the play should have been stopped
for an “Off-side” infraction; where this standard is met, the goal
will be disallowed.

(b) If the result of the challenge is that the play was “On-side”, the
goal shall count and the team that issued the challenge shall be
assessed a minor penalty for delaying the game.

(c) In the event a goal is reversed due to the NHL Situation Room
(after consulting with the Linesman) determining that the play was
“Off-side” prior to the goal being scored, the clock (including
penalty time clocks, if applicable) will be re-set to the time at
which the play should have been stopped for the “Off-side”
infraction.

NOTE 1: Goals will only be reviewed for a potential “Off-side”
infraction if: (a) the puck does not come out of the attacking zone
again; or (b) all members of the attacking team do not clear the
attacking zone again, between the time of the “Off-side” play and the
time the goal is scored.


NOTE 2: If one or more penalties (major or minor) are assessed
between the time of the “Off-side” play and the video review that
disallows the apparent goal, the offending team(s) (and responsible
Player(s)) will still be required to serve the penalty(ies) identified and
assessed, and the time of the penalty(ies) will be recorded as the time
at which the play should have been stopped for the “Off-side”
infraction.
Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Oct 20 @ 12:14 PM ET
By the official NHL rules, that goal last night that was challenged and called off for off-sides should have counted.

Refs messed that play up so much.

- carcus


My wife was giving me grief last because of this. She thought I meant that the Blues didn't have the right to challenge since they lost their timeout which was not the case.

Essentially, if they blow an offsides call but then all parties tag up, the zone is cleared, etc, then play is supposed to be allowed to continue as if it never happened.
lastmanback
St Louis Blues
Location: Catawissa, MO
Joined: 03.07.2008

Oct 20 @ 12:40 PM ET
NOTE 1: Goals will only be reviewed for a potential “Off-side”
infraction if: (a) the puck does not come out of the attacking zone
again; or (b) all members of the attacking team do not clear the
attacking zone again, between the time of the “Off-side” play and the
time the goal is scored.



Not sure what I missed, the play was offsides. The Av player did not clear the zone before touching the puck, in the zone.
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Oct 20 @ 1:10 PM ET
By the official NHL rules, that goal last night that was challenged and called off for off-sides should have counted.

Refs messed that play up so much.

- carcus


No, by official rules the goal should have been blown dead as off-sides initially. Neither the rules for offsides, nor the rules for challenging ofsides, were followed correctly, but the end result was exactly as it should have been.

NHL rules didn't allow the linesman to go back and make the correct call during the challenge, but they did anyways.
Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Oct 20 @ 1:23 PM ET
NOTE 1: Goals will only be reviewed for a potential “Off-side”
infraction if: (a) the puck does not come out of the attacking zone
again; or (b) all members of the attacking team do not clear the
attacking zone again, between the time of the “Off-side” play and the
time the goal is scored.

- lastmanback


In order to even be able to perform the review either (a) or (b) above have to be true.

(a) is not true as the puck did come out of the attacking zone
(b) is not true as all members of the AVs did clear the attacking zone before re-entering the zone and the goal being scored.

Since neither (a) nor (b) existed, there cannot be an offside review of the play.
sycsam
St Louis Blues
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.26.2008

Oct 20 @ 1:27 PM ET
In order to even be able to perform the review either (a) or (b) above have to be true.

(a) is not true as the puck did come out of the attacking zone
(b) is not true as all members of the AVs did clear the attacking zone before re-entering the zone and the goal being scored.

Since neither (a) nor (b) existed, there cannot be an offside review of the play.

- Jason Millen


I am surprised you all think the NHL refs and Linesman know the rulebook
Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Oct 20 @ 1:30 PM ET
I am surprised you all think the NHL refs and Linesman know the rulebook
- sycsam


Aren't they paying some people in Toronto to keep an eye on things and call into arenas to help on these sorts of things?

If companies I work with and for can have subject matter experts who monitor things, shouldn't the NHL?
sycsam
St Louis Blues
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.26.2008

Oct 20 @ 1:37 PM ET
Aren't they paying some people in Toronto to keep an eye on things and call into arenas to help on these sorts of things?

If companies I work with and for can have subject matter experts who monitor things, shouldn't the NHL?

- Jason Millen


I thought the war room made decisions on challenges

the refs and linesman cust give their input
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Oct 20 @ 1:41 PM ET
I thought the war room made decisions on challenges

the refs and linesman cust give their input

- sycsam

I believe that is actually backwards.

War room giving input, and the on ice officials making the call at the end of the discussion.
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